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ShadowKyogre · (This post was last modified: 07-29-2009 01:36 PM by ShadowKyogre.)

I still didn't duel Tronta, so in the meanwhile, I'll post the deck list of my spin on his deck. It's actually based off of a recipe I found in a WC2006 game (it wasn't complete) and I added some new cards to the deck. I've play tested it against 4 random decks so far and it seems to work pretty well...pretty well meaning whipping a DaD/Judgment Dragon deck in a few turns and sending a 60+ card deck to its doom (I know that many cards isn't legal...but my foe insisted...) and other various things.

Original Version (Click to View)

Possible Final (Click to View)

.:JBM:. · 07-25-2009, 05:07 PM

It's wierd to say the least. There's no DARK or flip support. Tronta's build would unfortunately kick this build's ass, unless of course you can point out why not. I didn't look card for card, but it's definitely a variant.

ShadowKyogre · 07-25-2009, 05:37 PM

Any suggestions on what to put in and take out?

.:JBM:. · 07-25-2009, 05:49 PM

IDK This is so different from what I think should be run. It's not bad.

-3 Gravekeeper's servant
-1 PoA
-3 Spear Cretin
-3 Waboku

+1 CCV
+3 Reckless Greed
+3 Book of Moon
+3 Hand Destruction

I feel like I could change more, but I've practically changed the whole deck already. Would you mind telling me what this deck does besides just decking out?

ShadowKyogre · 07-26-2009, 01:41 AM

It's supposed to deck out the opponent while keeping the opponent at bay, leaving the opponent almost helpless (when it comes to attacking) while the user mills away.

.:JBM:. · 07-26-2009, 06:18 AM

Needs some Book of taiyou.

Tronta · 07-26-2009, 09:21 PM

book of taiyou requires more flips, it often dead-drew me until i started running flip 5.
though to be honest, ive never actually play tested flip 5.
im just lazy.

in fact, i only actually need the hand destructions in order to build it..
maybe i should just ebay em.

back to the topic at hand, this is one of those slow decks, which is what bothers me about it.
flip 4 was the slowest i got, and i made it keep up by sticking hard at the anti meta.
it was still a pretty good competitor, but it lacked speed in the end, and would get beat by the meta.
(i regularly play against people at BRADs, so f***ing meta there.)

i generally dont like the mill decks that let the opponent gain too much hand advantage. ive seen em run, and they arent terrible, but every now and then it turns around and fucks you. giving your opponent options is never good.

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 01:16 PM

(07-26-2009 09:21 PM)Tronta Wrote: book of taiyou requires more flips, it often dead-drew me until i started running flip 5.
though to be honest, ive never actually play tested flip 5.
im just lazy.

in fact, i only actually need the hand destructions in order to build it..
maybe i should just ebay em.

back to the topic at hand, this is one of those slow decks, which is what bothers me about it.
flip 4 was the slowest i got, and i made it keep up by sticking hard at the anti meta.
it was still a pretty good competitor, but it lacked speed in the end, and would get beat by the meta.
(i regularly play against people at BRADs, so f***ing meta there.)

i generally dont like the mill decks that let the opponent gain too much hand advantage. ive seen em run, and they arent terrible, but every now and then it turns around and fucks you. giving your opponent options is never good.

I didn't see Book of Taiyou as useful either...but what I do tend to do with the deck (if possible) is to flip the Hiro's shadow scouts to stuff the foe's hands as much as I can, then card destruction, then (maybe whatever comes next). Anywho, any suggestions, Tronta?

Tronta · 07-29-2009, 01:17 PM

im not a fan of defender.
slow.
nor am i a fan of letting my opponent draw (except in eclipse)

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 01:19 PM

(07-29-2009 01:17 PM)Tronta Wrote: im not a fan of defender.
slow.
nor am i a fan of letting my opponent draw (except in eclipse)

I agree on the slow part, but I can't find a better replacement for him at the current moment in my mind...

Tronta · 07-29-2009, 01:20 PM

cup of ace?

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 01:21 PM

Ah, right. Almost forgot about that. Should I have the Shallow Grave?

Tronta · 07-29-2009, 01:22 PM

its my best friend.

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 01:24 PM

*is staring at the deck list* Don't know what to swap out though...

Tronta · 07-29-2009, 01:35 PM

erm
gyroid
mst
and a spear cretin?

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 01:38 PM

I think I killed off the Spear Cretins on the first edit O____o but I can probably eliminate Gyroid and MST.

Tronta · 07-29-2009, 03:38 PM

didnt check the new one.

ShadowKyogre · 07-29-2009, 09:28 PM

The possible final spoiler is the newest version, while the original recipe is my first idea.